Curse

CtrlAltDel · Oct 23, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

1. Warriors and hack-n-slash type chars, get up front!
2. Ranged damage, STAY RANGED, GET AWAY FROM THE FRONT LINES
3. Attack the called target, only and first!
4. Pay attention! If the healers are getting hit, get the mobs off the healers. At the same time healers, dont sit there and take the damage, try and kite the mob back to the front lines.

These have to be some of the most common sense things I've ever encountered in games like this..but GW seems to have the most people that are unable to grasp these simple concepts.

Consistent ranged damage up on the front lines, tanks running all over the place thinking they can take on the world w/o help. Ranged dmg doers just standing still letting themselves get beat on instead of trying to kite the mobs back to the tanks.

Hope this helps, and plz use your brain next time you log in.

Zehnchu · Oct 23, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

What was the middle part again?

Stemnin · Oct 23, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Duh, dude, he's trying to explain somethin, I think he said common sense, narly!

DUH.

TEX Cougar · Oct 23, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

very very true.

And when the only monk in your group keeps announcing his energy is 3 of 70, that means wait for it to regen.
If you cant be bothered to wait for it dont start slagging the monk off for being a noob when you all die

Also pay attention to what people are saying. When you've built the PUG and someone says 'one sec just sorting skills' (or similar) dont start whining about 'gay noob leavers' when you didnt wait.

How about paying attention to someone when they suggest an easier way of doing something?

Oh yes, WORK AS A TEAM

Sorry but im still annoyed at trying for nearly 3 hours to do Nahpui Quarter with PUGs earlier. I gave up making groups, grabbed some henches and did it first time.

Oh a GW forum · Oct 23, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

I really don't think anyone needed to be told this from you, but thanks for considering us all a bunch a brainless peons.

Oh a GW forum · Oct 23, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX Cougar

very very true.

And when the only monk in your group keeps announcing his energy is 3 of 70, that means wait for it to regen.
If you cant be bothered to wait for it dont start slagging the monk off for being a noob when you all die

Also pay attention to what people are saying. When you've built the PUG and someone says 'one sec just sorting skills' (or similar) dont start whining about 'gay noob leavers' when you didnt wait.

How about paying attention to someone when they suggest an easier way of doing something?

Oh yes, WORK AS A TEAM

Sorry but im still annoyed at trying for nearly 3 hours to do Nahpui Quarter with PUGs earlier. I gave up making groups, grabbed some henches and did it first time.

Maybe the fact that you think monks can have 70 energy has to do with your failure rate...

TEX Cougar · Oct 23, 2006, 08:25 PM // 20:25

His post i think was intended as one of the 'you know who you are' posts.

And some people i think could actually benefit from being told this

/edit oh by the way i dont often use my monk so i just threw a quick number in as an example, that has nothing to do with my failure rate.

Lets Get to Healing · Oct 23, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Added:

Never invite an Assassin or Mesmer (they all suck).

Only take cookie cutter builds, they will get you far.

WLlama · Oct 23, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Hee, hee...I was about to say that a monk with 70 E should take off his -regen equipment so that maybe he would have energy at a feasible rate but it looks like some noted it already.

Some good advice in there but for the most part I figure that the people on these forums are probably the more dedicated players...just a hunch though.

^ Mesmers and Assassins all suck? I could argue that is a very broad and unfair generalization but I have not the effort. Assassins are not tanks and mesmers are an anti-class...if you play either outside of their intended role, there will be some issues but that doesn't make all builds useless.

Furthermore, cookie cutters will give you some insight into good builds but you will never get the depth of interaction/understanding that you do from tweaking your own sets.

TEX Cougar · Oct 23, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing

Added:

Never invite an Assassin or Mesmer (they all suck)

Thats not strictly true, if you get people who know how to use them they can be quite handy

Lord Sarevok · Oct 23, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Number 3 isn't always right. Mesmers/rangers may be involved with shutting down annoying enemies. And frankly you get bad target callers often.

Your entire team should be kiting unless they are warriors. Warriors should always pull, not that fool of an elementalist casting meteor shower.

Minus Sign · Oct 23, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57

*scrubs eyes with fingertips* not again...

Ok; check this: anyone that wants to tell PuGs how to work should talk to their PuGs. The idiots you find in game are rarely found in a forum devoted to it. They don't think while playing the game in the first place, they won't be bothered to research it outside.

/call4lock before the flamewar starts.

Warskull · Oct 23, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel

1. Warriors and hack-n-slash type chars, get up front!
2. Ranged damage, STAY RANGED, GET AWAY FROM THE FRONT LINES
3. Attack the called target, only and first!
4. Pay attention! If the healers are getting hit, get the mobs off the healers. At the same time healers, dont sit there and take the damage, try and kite the mob back to the front lines.

These have to be some of the most common sense things I've ever encountered in games like this..but GW seems to have the most people that are unable to grasp these simple concepts.

Consistent ranged damage up on the front lines, tanks running all over the place thinking they can take on the world w/o help. Ranged dmg doers just standing still letting themselves get beat on instead of trying to kite the mobs back to the tanks.

Hope this helps, and plz use your brain next time you log in.

Some quick posting tips:
1) When giving advice don't use over generalizations
2) Give examples and explanations
3) Post some actual useful advice
4) Give more than a 1 liner don't suck

Nilator · Oct 23, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing

Added:

Never invite an Assassin or Mesmer (they all suck).

Only take cookie cutter builds, they will get you far.

Are you sersious? Assassins and mesmers can take down bosses before the rest of the group can even kill off the rest of the mob. GFG.

Clone · Oct 23, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing

Added:

Never invite an Assassin or Mesmer (they all suck).

Only take cookie cutter builds, they will get you far.

Spoken like a person who has no idea how to play either class. When played well, they can be very effective. They just take a bit more talent than "c, spacebar, c, spacebar, c, spacebar, c, spacebar".

XvArchonvX · Oct 23, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warskull

Some quick posting tips:
1) When giving advice don't use over generalizations

Basic general situations are best covered with general advice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warskull

2) Give examples and explanations

Reread his post, he did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warskull

3) Post some actual useful advice

Take a look at most people you see in PuGs and you will realize that as basic as this advice is, it is very useful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warskull

4) Give more than a 1 liner don't suck

Interesting that you should give this advice in the form of a 1-liner (an exceptionally badly written one).

Bankai · Oct 23, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

So erm, am I the only one that thinks the comment about mesmers and assassins was actually pure sarcasm?

I mean, it's the absurd view of a lot of pve-ers. Enough reason to make fun of it.

Zinger314 · Oct 23, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing

Added:

Never invite an Assassin or Mesmer (they all suck).

Only take cookie cutter builds, they will get you far.

Note to everyone, learn to detect sarcasm!

Note to Lets Get to Healing: Sarcasm is lost over the internet.

EDIT: Also, this thread is a bit late. PuGs won't exist in 4 days, if you know what I mean.

EinherjarMx · Oct 23, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

*don't expect that if you invite a specific class, they will be using the build you want ("you didn't asked me if I was a MM", "oh, no, I'm a boon prot, not a healer")

and if so, you better ask what build are they using, sometimes you get surprised of the build that ppl carries

shaolin mind trick · Oct 23, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

That one was definately sarcasm...
Some people just need to sit back and have a chuckle, instead of immediately going for the gas can and lighter.